After this video, learn how to create huge serve power with our 4 page Action Plan and Special Serve video. Click Here! Many players try for years to develop a good kick serve with no luck at all. If that sounds familiar don’t be frustrated, it’s a tough swing to get a feel for! That’s exactly what today’s drill is designed to do: help you get a feel for the kick serve. I’ve seen it do wonders for the serves of countless students. Best of all you don’t even need to be on a tennis court to give it a try! Your living room or driveway are just fine. Step 2. Add crushing power to your serve with this 4 page Action Plan and Power Video. Click Here! Serve Technique|114 Comments Related Posts Leave A Comment Cancel reply Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. 114 Comments Nick Conkle August 15, 2017 at 1:29 pm - Reply Time for a new video. You've run this one a dozen times. Blake July 25, 2017 at 11:10 am - Reply Thanks again Ian for the amazing videos! Recently I was playing in a tournament against a person who never missed and had a high and heavy topspin ball. It was extremely hard to hit the ball early because of the height and the quickness of the ball bouncing up. Also whenever I tried to execute or dictate the point he would turn my offensive ball into a offensive ball. Any tips on how to beat this type of player? Most appreciated, Blake. Lynn March 17, 2017 at 7:50 am - Reply Thanks Ian! That was really helpful! I'd love to have a kick serve but never have been able to master it! I think this will help! Kirk March 15, 2017 at 12:43 pm - Reply I can hit flat serves and spin serves. Flat serves are low percentage so I spin in a lot of slices, topspin, hybrid and kick serves… my biggest problem on spin serves especially the kick serve is getting pace on them. My kick serve just spins over bounces up in the direction I want it… maybe 5 feet high but just doesn't do much. I feel more pace is what I need… just haven't figured out the secret to it yet. As always… awesome videos ET Himalya September 25, 2016 at 12:38 pm - Reply I tried hitting kick serve but instead it goes a slice serve which I don't want Pls help me to make my kick serve bettet Al Garrett August 30, 2016 at 3:45 pm - Reply Great Jod ET. Al Garrett August 30, 2016 at 3:44 pm - Reply Thanks for the great tips and demonstration on the kick serve. paul bee July 21, 2016 at 8:24 am - Reply Great drill to learn the FEEL of the kick, thanks for the awesome tips Mar Sarmiento November 12, 2015 at 6:18 pm - Reply I serve facing the side fence on the ad court like McEnroe. To hit a kick serve do I have to change the direction I'm facing & of my ball toss? Noushin November 12, 2015 at 7:42 am - Reply Many thanks for sharing your invaluable experience and knowledge! DP November 11, 2015 at 2:46 pm - Reply Do you have senior discounts? I am playing tournaments and love your videos. I know it would make it easier to enroll in some of your programs, like the volley program recently advertised, if there was a discount for senior players. Francesco November 10, 2015 at 6:59 pm - Reply Dear Essential-Tennis, I've been going through a slump in my serve and although its not bad, it doesn't feel like there is any pace/spin like I used to and I am not winning as much free points anymore. Is there anything I can do to fix it? I've been very discouraged with my serve but please feel free to comment on other areas of improvement as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugfgtT7Fq9M Jim Tousek November 10, 2015 at 9:19 am - Reply Obviously, then, when hitting the kick serve by rolling the ball on the strings on a parallel positioned racket, the ball toss must be pretty low or hit well after the ball has descended from the highest point of the toss. And, it seems that a toss that descends behind my head would be a good spot for executing a kick serve. Jack November 10, 2015 at 7:06 am - Reply Great start! Thanks Dorothy November 9, 2015 at 5:14 pm - Reply Watching this I realized that you are in the Milwaukee area? I play at Paley's when I travel there for work. Thanks for all of the advise! Dorothy Michael Gavion November 9, 2015 at 4:47 pm - Reply Very good illustration Ian. Very simple tip. I can practice this technique and then move on to the next step in progression to hit a kick serve. Bob November 9, 2015 at 11:25 am - Reply Thank you, Ian. Trying to learn the kick serve has been a real bug-a-boo for me and all perspectives and suggestions that might help me get a feel for this tennis stroke is very much needed. Bob Ken November 9, 2015 at 11:23 am - Reply Great tip. Plan on trying it out later today on the practice court and during a match this evening! Judith September 30, 2015 at 4:01 pm - Reply . Very interesting. Will be applying that service tomorrow. Thank you. Bruno Bowald September 7, 2015 at 5:14 pm - Reply great stuff – thanks, Ian I ' ll be practising that one Peter Ong August 17, 2015 at 5:06 pm - Reply Ian, I like the logic on your "carve around the ball" video. Its much more logical to use pronation to point the string to the target, and therefore, even a slice serve is hit on the back of the ball. My question is how to get that 10-12 foot to the left on a slice serve. To get that deep curve left, the videos that advocate "spin the stone" drills seem to make more sense. Also, they seem to suggest hitting the ball on the side and really accelerating along the side of the ball. Gianni July 13, 2015 at 6:16 pm - Reply Thanks a lot, it seems to make a big difference. Another big question I had was what the difference should be between your first and second serve? Normally I try to hit my first flatter with a lot of pop and my second with kick but I'm not sure if I should be changing my motion on each serve. I also tend to double fault more doing this because the motions are different. Gianni June 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm - Reply Hi Ian, I've watched many of your videos and they're very helpful. Just recently I have been working on a kick serve and it's coming along, but constantly on every 5 balls I hit, 1 will go completely flat. Just wondering if you could give me any tips on how to consistently get the ''kicker spin'' and hit out into my opponents backhand. Thanks, Gianni Ian Westermann July 6, 2015 at 12:45 pm - Reply It's all about direction of swing, Gianni. The one that "goes flat" is completely due to your racquet accelerating towards your target, THROUGH the baseline….instead of accelerating upwards past the ball along the baseline. Hope that helps. Clarence June 16, 2015 at 1:01 pm - Reply Ian, This drill was so helpful! I'd been struggling trying to hit a kick serve. Your video helped me slow down and look the ball to get this spin on it. Now, I'm hitting my kick serve with so much confidence and with ease! U D'Man! Jill June 12, 2015 at 12:29 pm - Reply Excellent Steve Gershman May 27, 2015 at 10:05 pm - Reply Ian, I've enjoyed watching your videos. I'm 4 years from bilateral knee replacement and have been playing more tennis during this past year. Gave golf a chance at first, but my first love is tennis. Gone are my singles days, but doubles has become my passion. Thanks for your time and effort, as you put out a great teachable product. I try and use as much as possible from the information that you put forth. Steve Gershman Grant Martin April 19, 2015 at 10:34 pm - Reply I can get my serve over the net, but Its too soft and my opponents tee off on it and hit winners on me. How can I fix that! Thanks thuan April 11, 2015 at 3:21 am - Reply Thanks you Ron March 3, 2015 at 12:24 pm - Reply Hi Ian really enjoy your lessons, are you going to do any more kick serve lessons, have been trying for years to get a good one, mine sits up too much and guys smack it, would love some help. Thanks Ron Richard February 18, 2015 at 3:32 pm - Reply Nice tip. Useful for me in developing a kick serve. fred r. koch January 31, 2015 at 9:56 am - Reply I liked the video,it makes sense . I've had some of my students use this video to get the idea of going up with their racquet.keep up the good work. Carol S January 28, 2015 at 9:49 pm - Reply Will try your suggestion on Friday. I have a flat serve, but it is the best part of my game. Thanks for all your videos – I watch them faithfully. Pons January 28, 2015 at 7:20 pm - Reply Very clear tips please keep it coming Larry Jaggers January 27, 2015 at 12:24 pm - Reply Ian when did you start playing right handed ??? Good example Roberto Matos January 26, 2015 at 5:24 pm - Reply Thanks for the excellent tip. I can't wait for KS technique videos. Jack Donnelly January 26, 2015 at 12:31 pm - Reply Very nice little video. One point, clearly, simply, and effectively made. Thanks! Taylor Jones January 26, 2015 at 11:21 am - Reply Excellent introduction for newbie kick servers! Thanks, Ian. Have a great day!! Mike Holmes December 18, 2014 at 7:48 am - Reply Another great video, thanks Ian. patrick odonnell October 21, 2014 at 3:02 pm - Reply Was an A player. Had a stroke, r side. Told to start over left handed. CAN U HELP ME? Heitor Werneck September 21, 2014 at 7:53 am - Reply Hi Ian, thank you for posting all these lessons online for free. I have been following them for a while and really learn a lot from your tips and suggestions. I am 38 and I play tennis since I was 8. I am a 4.0 level player. I am from Rio, Brazil and I have shared your videos with other tennis players here (did you know you were becoming popular Brazil??). At this point, I would like to focus on developing a serve technique that would give me confidence to have a clearly distinct first and second serves and also that I could consciously vary between flat, slice, and spin serves effectively aiming to wide, body, ant T. I just feel that my first and second serves are too similar with some slice motion. What would you recommend me? Thank you very much! George Fehl September 16, 2014 at 9:56 am - Reply Please distinguish the difference in swing between the Slice and Kick serves. They seem to be very similar. josip September 13, 2014 at 8:17 am - Reply i love all your other videos, but i just really don't know about this one ! i've been learning the kick (self taught, no money) for a while unsuccesfully and doing it like this will ruin anybody. because, you have to be side on when you hit it, not front on as you are in the video. it's a common mistake which you might encourage here and makes it impossible to ever have a real kick serve. wish i knew that before though! Diana September 12, 2014 at 11:35 am - Reply Omg…what a simple but effective drill I can practice in the house. Can actually feel the upward motion and spin of the ball and control the speed. Thank you! tom September 12, 2014 at 8:29 am - Reply You mentioned in your latest video on "not carving" that you filmed a pro serving flat, slice and kick. I would find it very helpful to watch a comparison of his body kick and slice serves. Especially when viewed from behind. It would help greatly to see what subtle serve changes do to the flight and bounce of the ball. Keep up the good work. Romeo Lacasandile August 29, 2014 at 11:29 pm - Reply Explanations how to execute and perform a shot are very good. I like it. Thanks and we enthusiast can benefit your lessons to improve our games. tiziano August 7, 2014 at 8:13 am - Reply hello Ian, I apologize in advance for my question is non related to the topic you introduced in this video, I was wondering, perhaps you have some suggestions or specific drills to improve the weakest part of my tennis game, which is the overhead volley / smash … It is really frustrating for me to create a good pattern in a rally, then approach the net to close the point, and not being able to manage the incoming lob .. thanks for helping! Evan July 29, 2014 at 10:26 am - Reply What is most remarkable is the comment about serve being an upward motion. Most people don't realize that. I suggest you emphasize that every chance you have when talking about serves. (On a side note: I made my six year old son try to hit something hanging high…and all serve 'form' came so natural…amazing) Merv July 25, 2014 at 7:13 pm - Reply will try to adapt to your suggestions….thanks Ian. Dexter Godbey July 16, 2014 at 8:56 am - Reply Hi Ian… Just commented on your hitting "late" lesson. Saw this link also on Facebook and it's working…just so you know. I've also seen this before and it's a great reminder and effective tip. Thanks. Best… Dexter Ed July 8, 2014 at 11:59 am - Reply Ian, With the ultimate KICK serve you don't mention the proper grip to use. Igor June 8, 2014 at 8:46 am - Reply Its also good idea to bend your back in order to achieve better rushing of the ball and toss ball a little higher then usual! Carol S June 3, 2014 at 5:47 am - Reply I have never attempted a kick serve, but will practice your drill and see how it goes. Thanks for introducing something new to me. Carol lou lencin March 15, 2014 at 3:21 pm - Reply I'm eagerly waiting for the next lesson so that I can finally do a kick serve Jack Crossen March 13, 2014 at 5:07 pm - Reply I often hit the ball with the bottom of the frame on the topspin drill for kick serve. Am I doing something wrong? johnm February 23, 2014 at 11:31 pm - Reply What a difficult serve this is for me. But being able to have that ball bounce so high and so far before bouncing again puts me(theoretically) in a great position to play almost any return regards johnm. Max February 23, 2014 at 4:28 am - Reply This is a really cool video! I hope you keep adding more! But could you please make videos for volleys that are for free? It would be really cool if we did not have to pay! Rich Lindgren February 21, 2014 at 7:48 pm - Reply Thanks Ian-Great Tip! Terri February 21, 2014 at 2:07 pm - Reply I read that a topspin serve is not ideal for doubles play as it allows the returner to have more time to hit a return that will probably be hit down on the court making it harder for their opponents to be offensive. I understand that it is a high percentage serve tho. Can u weigh in what the other advantages having this serve is? Thanks. Jim Anderson February 11, 2014 at 2:10 pm - Reply I've been able to perform the spin-up-on-the-ball routine for years — and NEVER developed a kick-serve. What I produce is a crappy topspin serve. It has lots of spin & frequently fails to clear the net. Serves that do clear the net land short in the service box & bounce waist-high — right into my opponent's wheelhouse. There's no right-to-left action after the bounce (I'm right-handed). Any comments? Best…. DANIEL R DUMALAG February 4, 2014 at 2:17 am - Reply THANKS A LOT IAN. I CAN SAY I HAVE IMPROVED A LOT IN MY VOLLEY, SERVICE, AND LOB SINCE I STARTED WATCHING AND PUTTING IN PRACTICE ALL YOUR INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS. I AM JUST A RECREATIONAL PLAYER BUT HONESTLY I AM ENJOYING IT MORE NOW. AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DAN Lucile February 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm - Reply Nice idea, Ian. The second of the 3 F's in MTM is FEEL… Jyotsna Sharma February 3, 2014 at 1:55 am - Reply Excellent Video Tips for Kick Serve. Thanks a lot !! Jatinder February 2, 2014 at 10:25 pm - Reply Very useful exercise for kick serve. Thanks a lot Rich Lindgren February 2, 2014 at 12:47 pm - Reply excellent! Michael February 2, 2014 at 5:03 am - Reply I appreciate that you are trying to help beginning players develop their tennis game and they will find this drill useful. You might have oversold this drill a little with the title ultimate kick serve drill. I was expecting to see one of your friends that used to play on tour go through some progressions and serving drills utilizing the kick serve. perhaps in a future video you will go into more detail and create a composite for the ultimate kick serve. Manoj February 1, 2014 at 9:30 pm - Reply I have been receiving your messages from essential tennis …….it has been really useful for me and it has improved my playing …..i am little bit confused in my forehand ….. I am using my wrist action while playing forehand ….I would like to know whether what I am doing is correct or wrong?….Please suggest the best you can . THANK YOU Quaglia Pierre February 1, 2014 at 4:18 pm - Reply Great videos. Helpful. I kind of like your style Ian Westermann February 1, 2014 at 4:42 pm - Reply What would it take to get a full "like" instead of "kind of like"?? 🙂 Arthur Taggart February 1, 2014 at 12:28 pm - Reply Excellent muscle memory drill. I think I've been attempting the kick with my racquet too vertical which results in spraying it around a little too much. I toss a kicker directly over my head, but is there a way to disguise it or hit it from the same position as my slice? Carol S February 1, 2014 at 6:00 am - Reply I will try your suggestion later today. Also want to work on service motion. Right now I start as you recommend, but then I make a large circular motion (probably taught to me in late 60's). This may slow my serve down. BTW, I signed up for the $37 course and never received anything from you. Please check your records to see if my purchase went through. Thanks, Carol Ian Westermann February 1, 2014 at 4:43 pm - Reply Really sorry for the delay getting you into the court, Carol. You'll be receiving an e-mail from my support team shortly! WILLY ANDREINA February 1, 2014 at 2:29 am - Reply interesting aproach William Mann February 1, 2014 at 12:30 am - Reply Have not tried this drill, although I have had the visualization demonstration when learning this serve. Seems like a great way to get the feel for the upward motion.The kick started to work for me when I developed rotator cuff problems. Any idea on how to avoid that? You might incorporate a discussion for the avoidance of, what likely was bad mechanics. Is rotator cuff issue a common problem for this serve? Robert June 12, 2015 at 4:03 am - Reply You are at risk for rotator cuff problems when your upper arm rises above the plane of your shoulders. It sounds as though you are keeping your shoulders more level (parallel to the ground) and reaching up with your arm to contact the ball. The technique adjustment is to follow the tossing motion right on up so the left arm raises high (and the left shoulder with it), and let your shoulders cartwheel so that your right shoulder is tilted up at contact. Your upper arm will then say at the level of the line of your shoulders. This position keeps you from pinching your rotator cuff under the stress of contact and keeps the pressure off. Mike Fewster February 1, 2014 at 12:03 am - Reply That is a great drill. My top spin and kick serves aren't bad, but they will now be better P Doki February 1, 2014 at 12:03 am - Reply Helpful tip Sam January 31, 2014 at 9:50 pm - Reply Follow up topic ought to be how to return a kicker. Alex January 31, 2014 at 8:11 pm - Reply Ian Awesome drill! You've explained how to gradually learn how to apply a topspin serve. Can you answer this simple question? When tennis pros do a second serve, what kind of spin are they putting? They never miss second serves. Are they always using topspin for 2nd serves? Ryan January 31, 2014 at 7:45 pm - Reply Nice intro Ian. Looking forward to the other vids that you'll be posting. Jorge January 31, 2014 at 6:06 pm - Reply Great your idea to have the sense of an up driving the ball. But I tought that should be better to go from 7 to 1 in a clock face manner. Instead of 6 to 12. Can you say something about it.? please. Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm - Reply You're correct…..at contact most players are actually more like 8 to 2. As I said in the video, more details to come. This is just a feel drill 🙂 Ed January 31, 2014 at 5:53 pm - Reply Awesome hints, thanks Ian! Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm - Reply You're welcome, Ed! BUD/S Class 30 January 31, 2014 at 3:44 pm - Reply Great serve drill. I'll try this in the court today. Thanks Ian! Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm - Reply Let me know how it goes! Bill January 31, 2014 at 3:40 pm - Reply Excellent intro to Kick serve- love to see the rest Ron Sheeley January 31, 2014 at 3:02 pm - Reply Ian: Good video…do you have plans to show pronation and the racket coming up as if one was going to hit the ball with the side of the racket? Ron Sheeley roy January 31, 2014 at 2:12 pm - Reply Good drill for getting the feel of the kick. Would like to see a drill correcting the racket drop into the proper slot position. Also, an explanation or drill that breaks down throwing the edge of the racket during the serve into the pronated brush we were just looking at. Patrick January 31, 2014 at 2:06 pm - Reply Excellent drill. I understand the goal. However I noticed you were releasing the racket hand through the ball. In this drill would keeping the wrist firm and extending upward with the elbow and shoulder followed by wrist/hand release be included at some point. Thanks Ian all your material is illuminating and relevant. Pat Bill January 31, 2014 at 12:57 pm - Reply Good lesson that's how I learnt how to kick. David January 31, 2014 at 12:19 pm - Reply This is excellent but the best kick serve advice came from a pro who insisted that I line up as usual at the service line and then pointed up at the tennis court light that was slightly to the right of my left shoulder (I'm right handed) and instructed that I hit the ball over the fence at that light. When I did as instructed something magic happened, the serve didn't fly over the fence at the light but hit deep on the outside of the service box and kicked up and away the opposite direction than I had ever seen a serve move before. Never had a problem hitting a kick server after that. Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 12:24 pm - Reply Haha, awesome! Good teaching pros always have lots of tricks like that up their sleeve. What he did was exactly what I'm trying to do here: provide a way to feel what an upward swing is like! andrew February 6, 2014 at 1:56 am - Reply David, nice post. I was out hitting serves today and remembered the comment. I was working on the kick serve and saw the light post and tried to hit over it and generated a lot of topspin and racquet speed. Definitely makes you hit up on the ball. I even worked on location by hitting "inside the light post" for wide serve (deuce side) and "outside the light post" for down the T. Don McD January 31, 2014 at 12:17 pm - Reply Excellent video. I have that motion down, but I hit it too high. I get a nice serve, but without a huge increase in spin. Any hints on how to slow down my timing and still get racquet head speed. I generally find that I have to aim somewhere different with my initial swing. For example, to get a good flat serve, I had to aim 2 to 4 feet behind the ball. That forced me to really turn my body into the ball Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 12:24 pm - Reply If you accelerate upwards towards the ball but the ball flies much too high/far then your racquet face is too open at contact! Be sure that you have a continental grip, or even try turning your grip further than continental so that your big knuckle on your index finger is on bevel #1. Dan January 31, 2014 at 12:07 pm - Reply Thanks, Ian! I've been working for several months on my kick serve and, for me, it seems that there's an element of faith involved: faith that the ball will clear the net and bounce in the service box. It's such a different feel than the flat serve with which I'm comfortable. On the flat I'm confident because of the drive of the racquet's path that's applied in the direction of where I want the ball to fly. I guess it feels like I'm more in control of the ball's flight. In the kick, that drive doesn't apply so I don't feel the same sense of control. I know that ultimately I'm in control on either serve and the kick has been working okay for me. I look forward to any more instruction from you on this. Would you consider helping us get that bounce out to the right that Federer gets? Thanks! Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 12:27 pm - Reply The high bounce to the right is tough, Dan. It takes not only the right path with the racquet but a LOT of racquet head speed, which means that basically all of your technique has to be pretty darn solid. Definitely not impossible, but something most players don't ever achieve. Aggie January 31, 2014 at 12:00 pm - Reply Ian many thanks for your video but I have to say, and maybe the two are not exclusive of each other, that the approach you took in your 'Power, Spin and Accuracy Secret' lesson really is in my experience a great way to accelerate the learning process. If by any chance you do have any other coaching instruction which comes at it from a similar perspective then I for one would be most appreciative and interested. Thanks for your kind generosity. John C January 31, 2014 at 11:45 am - Reply Congratulations, Ian, on doing that all right handed. I'm interested to know why you chose to position your body at that angle to the court. It seems odd. By the way I think you'll find the ball goes forward because you're pushing on it against your hand. Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 12:28 pm - Reply Thanks for noticing my ambi-skills! haha I just simply find that 45 degrees to the baseline makes it most comfortable to reach up with a flat racquet while you have a continental grip. Facing straight forward will probably still feel fine, turned to the side will definitely be awkward. Honestly it doesn't make much difference to me as long as what the racquet is doing is correct! Raj January 31, 2014 at 11:42 am - Reply Hi Ian. Thanks for the video. How does pronation and the timing of pronation fit into this?. That has been my biggest problem or lack of technique knowledge with regard to the kick serve….Thanks…Raj Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 12:28 pm - Reply Great question, Raj. I'll be covering that in detail in future videos! Raj February 2, 2014 at 9:05 pm - Reply Hi Ian Thanks. We had a rare 'Spring' day in Rhode Island today and I tried some kick serves, brushing the ball at the back. I cleared the net by yards, the ball landed in and rose high. The problem was that no matter what I tried it did not have pace. Anyone who could handle a high ball could have put their return away easily. Waiting for the secret pace and topspin…Raj Mike Tucker January 31, 2014 at 11:41 am - Reply What a great drill – and you deserve the web instruction equivalent of an Oscar for doing this right handed! Bob January 31, 2014 at 11:39 am - Reply Ian, how far back should you arch your back on the kick serve? Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 12:30 pm - Reply To get a huge kicker there's no doubt that getting an aggressive tilt/arch is necessary, Bob. However, to create more topspin than your average player not much is needed at all, it's more about the direction of the swing and where the toss is placed. I'll be talking more about that in future videos! Dan Rock January 31, 2014 at 11:35 am - Reply If you were to use a youth colored ball you would be able to see the spin of the ball on camera. Enjoy your videos BTW. thanks, Dan Rock Dallas, TX Sergei January 31, 2014 at 11:35 am - Reply I will definitely try this drill to learn a kick serve. I hope rolling the ball on my palm will help to actually repeat this motion during the serve. Cannot wait to see how this vertical motion can be reproduced in a real serve. Thanks. paul otte January 31, 2014 at 11:33 am - Reply Ian – nice simple drill to begin awareness to the "brushing" action on a Kicker. I look forward to you expanding on the "directional orientation" of both the body and the arm and how that differs from the racquets'. Keep up the good work! po Camille January 31, 2014 at 11:22 am - Reply Great Video Ian. I have been struggling to get the feel of swinging up and across (kick) as opposed to swinging through the ball for the flat serve. Can't wait to see other videos about kick serve technique. Thanks! Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 11:24 am - Reply You're welcome, Camille. Thanks for watching! peter burling January 31, 2014 at 10:55 am - Reply very good and very simple. always a struggle teaching kicker! once they get it…..but getting it is the thing. Ian Westermann January 31, 2014 at 11:00 am - Reply You're absolutely right, Peter, the biggest challenge is simply helping students FEEL what a kick serve is like. It's completely different than the way most players swing.